– Q1: Do you have any Pre/Probiotic recommendations?
(Dr. Venkatesan) We don’t have enough data yet, part of future efforts, to recommend anything yet. Multicenter registry ideally would include (stool, blood, saliva, & other samples).
(Dr. Boles) Other entities/agencies/problems Do have this. We are not there yet for CVS unfortunately.
– Q2: Coalescence (chronic continuous nausea), How to treat it?
(Dr. Karrento) Coalescence may be byproduct of multiple comorbidities and factors. Evaluation & treatment may be complex and must be treated individually. Though we don’t know why it happens and can be difficult to discern because of other comorbidities. We treat the symptoms as we can.
(Dr. Frazier) Carbidopa may help with certain types of nausea. More to come (POTS, etc.) Can use scopolamine patch (granisetron/Zofran).
– Q3: Is AI used for research? Do you think it will help?
(Dr. Frazier) Pharm is using it already, not clinically but for research. We do also use for medical education and administrative functions.
(Dr. Venkatesan) Machine learning is taking place, but overall is not ready yet for per patient use.
– Q4: Infusion centers were mentioned as alternatives for IV and nutrients, what should we add?
(Dr. Venkatesan) Not enough data yet on what else to try. Fluids will help and most of the nutrients won’t likely hurt, but it is unknown what else may help, so I have not other recommendations yet.
– Q5: How common is it that a person with CVS doesn’t have known trigger? How common do abortive therapies not work?
(Dr. B Li) 75% of CVS patients have triggers and/or internal calendars, whether it is known or unknown to them. 60-70% respond, but there are many who don’t respond to commonly recommended therapies, but it is not uncommon to “fail” some treatments.
(Dr. Venkatesan) A part of it is use and patient education, when & how to take what. A patient may not have enough time to get it in and active before the puking starts in some cases.
(Dr. Boles) Often D5/D10 alone (or with potassium) can be enough to break an episode even without medications.
– Q6: Is there a system (Kaiser, etc.) you recommend to go through to get answers and diagnosis?
(Jenny) CVSA has a list of providers that are CVS aware and/or treat CVS patients. You can use that to help find a specialist in your area.
(Dr. Karrento) Find a neurogastroenterology center (most are CVS savvy) and they are in all major cities.
– Q7: Adult child to ED, what papers are needed to be able to speak for them as patient?
(Dr. Venkatesan) Have provider written ED plan for their tailored CVS treatment. Go when well to prepare ED/providers ahead of time. Exercise patience & be kind. Be as prepared as you can.
(Dr. Frazier) Lot of patients get labeled “bad actor” or “bad attitude”. Carry power of attorney or go get a name on chart ahead of time so that you’re able to speak for them when you are not sick.
(Dr. Karrento) Generic protocols (adult & peds) are available to help your provider (PCM) plan ahead for ED visits having them on your file before you go in.
(Jenny) Pre-coordinating with the nurse manager ahead of time to share paperwork and plans can also help.
(Dr. Venkatesan) Try not to view/treat the ED staff as adversary. They are prioritizing care & like to have guidelines and plans, especially when you have plan that is signed by a physician.
– Q8: 35 years physical (no psych aspects cared for) now 39 years old CVS and have PTSD – Where do I get psych care to help her overcome this? (neuropsych)
(Dr. Brown) It can be very hard to find a good therapist. Even harder to find a specialist therapist on neuro-GI-psych. Try going to an academic medical center near you and ask for GI or health psychologist.
(Dr. Venkatesan) ROME foundation has a list of providers/therapists.
(Dr. Brown) Psychologists have psypact licenses that you can see virtually (out of state).
(Blynda) My son was adolescent, which in my area was tough fit to find a psychologist focused on chronic illness overall, let alone CVS specific.
– Q9: Can intense hiccups be a symptom of CVS? I have twins who both have it.
(Dr. Venkatesan) It may or may not be your CVS, but may be something else. Could be attributed to vagal or comorbid conditions.
(Dr. Karrento) I have seen a patient with vagal neuropathy with this. It is not easy nor common in many CVS patients.
(Dr. Boles) May be related to channelopathy, anxiety, chronic fatigue or other comorbid conditions. Hard to say without more background.
– Q10: Some providers do NOT accept plans/letters no matter what. Some do universal treatments no matter the CVS story. However my CVS patient struggles with intense pain and most deny what works best for them, What do you do when that happens?
(Dr. Levinthal) You can’t control all providers/EDs, nor their institutional protocols. Non-narcotic alternatives (ketamine). Do not EVER ask for narcotics!
(Dr. Venkatesan) Refractory patients (had patient do IV ketamine and got him off drugs & back to life). Ketamine addiction potential is not known. Has been used in severe depression and may possibly be a future pain option eventually?
(Dr. Boles) Pain is one of the most common and most severe comorbidities with CVS. 10% CVS patients have CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome). I use sodium blockers, SSRIs, etc. to treat and mito cocktails. Pain is tricky, but easier to treat than most of the other CVS issues.
– Q11: Histamine connections to CVS?
(Dr. Karrento) Yes, we see MCAS as part of CVS symptom complex. We are acknowledging more, but don’t know yet what to do. Go to allergist who does black and white MCAS evaluation then discards idea. Dysautonomia progressing and connecting w/MCAS & CVS. Treatments are coming. We are trying and learning from our patients, still lots of trial and error treatment.
(Dr. Levinthal) Most antihistamines have a sedative effect so it is hard to differentiate responses with CVS patients, since usually sleep helps.
– Q12: Marijuana may be a mast cell stabilizer?
(Dr. Venkatesan) Very complicated & we don’t yet know. CB1 & CB2 receptors, acute vs chronic use of marijuana, antiemetic vs destabilizer.
– Q13: L-Carnitine – Increases good or bad cholesterol?
(Dr. Boles) It can be used and has been found helpful, but it is highly recommend that the patient is monitored.